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  1. Rigidjunkie
    April 16, 2015 @ 1:11 pm

    My neighbor has one of these in black it is a very nice looking car. He bought it 2 years after they stopped selling them and paid around half what was on the sticker.

  2. Unknown
    April 16, 2015 @ 1:27 pm

    I'd swap in a killer L62 and a sweet Saxomat. THEN I'd have a real sleeper! As in six feet under…

    Still, +1 for the Jag-wagon!

  3. OwenDRUM
    April 16, 2015 @ 3:36 pm

    It is such a good looking car but the creamy whiteout style of this one is too snazzy fancy pants tea time for me, but damn that's a good price. I looked at these as family haulers but the E320 Mercedes wagons had more room and some offered 3rd row which can be a big bonus. This would be MUCH more fun with some LS1 swapness

  4. Hunsbloger
    April 16, 2015 @ 3:46 pm

    I've always liked the look of these, but always wondered; aren't they just re-badged Ford Mondeo wagons. Even down to the windows and roof rack, it looks like they were from the same parts bin. Unfortunately, this cars horrible sales numbers probably are the reason why we don't get a Fusion wagon here in the states. (Never mind that they were trying to sell wagons through one of their premium brands where no one would think to look for one).

  5. mrkwong
    April 16, 2015 @ 3:46 pm

    There are several cars I can think of that look better as wagons than as anything else. Was just yesterday admiring the perfect proportions of the BMW E46 wagon, the coupes are fussy (too many lines in the sides) and the sedans a little better but the wagons are just right.

    This is another one – the sedans are just too precious, all the carefully downsized XJ design details fall flat. But the wagon's much, much better.

    Ford spent a lot of money on – think it was Ricardo that did the drivetrain engineering – the AWD on these things. The Mondeo platform wasn't the right choice for a 3-series competitor, but they put a whole lot of effort into polishing that turd.

    It was rather funny that once the aluminum XJ hit the road, I think the curb weights of the V6 X-type, V6 S-type, and V6 XJ (not found in the US) were all within 50lb of one another.

    Anyone taken a swing at swapping the manual transaxle (non-US) into an X-Type? I'd imagine it's possible, but for the effort involved you might just decide you'd rather have an S4 Avant.

    • rottenland
      April 16, 2015 @ 4:58 pm

      Some of the sedan X-types came with manuals , so one would think the swap would not be be to hard.

      You probably aren't going to find much help for a swap on the Jaguar forums, and I don't recall any good words about the 5-speed on the X-Type.

    • Unknown
      April 16, 2015 @ 6:52 pm

      Like a jaguar in a coal mine, I'm going to take a swipe at the dark and guess that there weren't any wagons sold with a manual. If you know this to be wrong, please show me the error of my ways so that I can update my database. There were quite a few sedans sold with a stick though, for sure.

      cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/632854694/overview/

      I remember driving a 2.5 X-Typo once and thinking how it made very little sense in light of the competition and the fact that it wouldn't take much to move up to an S-Typewriter or XJ. My brother only drove Jags in his later years, loved 'em. If there's no R in the model name they weren't really my cup of tea but that's neither here nor there and it's not like you asked. So, hmph.

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    • JimmyinTEXAS
      April 16, 2015 @ 7:22 pm

      @K2, According to automobile-catalog.com/ there were a number of X-Type Phase 1(2004-2007) estates sold with 5 speeds, Also the Phase 2(2007-2009) with every engine combination including 2.0L, 2.2L, 2.5L and the 3.0L. But they also say they were all Europe models, indicating none were sold in the U.S.

    • Unknown
      April 16, 2015 @ 7:37 pm

      Thanks Jimmy! I wrote that and then thought, "I should have specified in the US." But I figured nobody would read it anyway, so I just left it. Yep, probably no any manual wagons in the US and I'm not surprised about the Euro variants. Thanks again!

    • JimmyinTEXAS
      April 16, 2015 @ 7:51 pm

      @K2, I meant they didn't mention any being sold in the U.S. Auto or otherwise…
      According to carfolio.com/ the 2003 2.0L Turbo-Diesel has a five speed gear box, RWD.
      Both the Auto and Manual gas models are transverse mounted AWD, I didn't check other years, but I didn't even see mention of them being sold in the U.S. either…??
      Man I like the way they look.. very similar to a BMW, BUT NOT…. LOL

    • Unknown
      April 16, 2015 @ 8:35 pm

      Got it. Again, no manual wagons. I just did a nationwide search for one and came up with nothing, which indicates to me that my gut is right. Or just fat, either one.

    • mrkwong
      April 17, 2015 @ 6:14 am

      rottenland – I'm imagining (a couple Google searches would confirm, but I'm headed for bed) that the 5-speed was an MTX75 transaxle derivative, the ones I've driven in FWD applications have been decent.

      I once considered scraping up an S-type R but the one thing above all else that put me off of Jag ownership was the base incuriosity of the Jag ownership community as evinced by the Jag net forums.

      At the time, at least, they all seemed quite happy to prostrate themselves in front of dealer service writers, and the level of technical knowledge in at least the late model owner community was pathetic at best.

      Sent me scurrying back to the BMW cocoon in a hurry.

  6. JimmyinTEXAS
    April 16, 2015 @ 6:48 pm

    I picked up my computer to get the phone number to call, and the screen updated… SOLD. Dang that was close…

  7. Bobinott
    April 16, 2015 @ 10:53 pm

    Who said you could not buy a Ford Mondeo Wagon in the USA? This car is proof you could.

    • Unknown
      April 17, 2015 @ 1:28 am

      Huh? Uh…nobody said you couldn't buy a Mondeo/X-Type wagon in the US, Mr. B. Have you slipped your restraints again? Be a good boy and just allow the nice men in white coats to assist you with that.

      [img] i.imgur.com/hyzPw1Q.jpg?1[/img]

    • Bobinott
      April 17, 2015 @ 3:22 am

      Back a few days ago when we were discussing the dearth of small wagons, someone mentioned that Ford didn't bring the wagon along when the Mondeo became the Contour for the USA. I was just reminding folks of the humble origins of the Jaguar X-Type.

      So, really, there is no need for all these guys with that padded jacket thing. No, really, I mean it! Back off!

    • Hunsbloger
      April 17, 2015 @ 4:55 am

      I was referring to the current generation Mondeo as this X type is the 'Contour' series Mondeo.

    • mrkwong
      April 17, 2015 @ 6:20 am

      It's Mondeo-based, but not a Mondeo, and it's pulled off a later Mondeo platform than was the Contour/Mystique.

      I'm guessing it's also 700lb heavier than an early FWD Mondeo wagon.

    • Unknown
      April 17, 2015 @ 1:08 pm

      Ah, Dr. B. No context, so I thought you'd lost your mind, hearing voices. My wife does this all the time to me. We're talking about one subject, then she randomly switches to another. I'm supposed to keep up with that?

      According to my records, there was a connection with Mystique/Mondeo/Contour/Cougar that we also got here in the States. But I believe that platform is not exactly the one under X-Type. Instead, it was a slightly revised version that only showed up on the Mondeo sold overseas, not the one we got here. There's also a connection to a variety of Mazdas (Atenza, 6, CX-9, FAW Besturn) and Ford/Lincoln/Mercurys (Fusion, Flex, Zephyr/MKZ, MKX, Milan, Edge)…all on a slightly modified version of the platform, though arguably not the exact same one under the X-Type.

      There was no doubt in my mind that the X-Type I drove was very much like the Mondeo I rented the last time I was overseas. My take on it was that the Mondeo wasn't all that bad, so I didn't really see a problem with offering it as a less expensive Jag model. It made sense to me from a Ford/PAG/Jag standpoint at the time, them trying to break into a portion of the market that they hadn't been in before. Jag HAD (and continues to have) to do something or it's gonna go bye-bye. It's basically moribund/on hospice right now, so the X-Type clearly wasn't the answer in retrospect.

      I can hear the crickets chirping as I write this.

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